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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: lamf9808 on November 28, 2011, 01:07 am
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I spent over $3000 with larghetto on a few orders and he has admittedly told me that the package is not yet sent 3 weeks later and is now not even replying to my messages. This entire transaction has seemed sketchy - he told me the price of the product went up and I had to send him more money, then delayed it almost another week saying his supplier was on holiday - both of these I understand are not faults of his but I was patient. Then it took another week for the supplier to send it out and he received a tracking number. The package was supposed to be here by now so I asked him to check the tracking for me and that's when he told me it actually wasn't sent out to me because EMS doesn't deliver to Canada! I requested a refund which pretty much refused before he stopped replying and now won't even let me know what is going on!!!
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Damn, 3000 bucks? That's insane.
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YA! As a new member I was forced to finalize early and now I am screwed... buyers beware of business with larghetto!!!
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Yeah, I feel bad. Nobody wants to lose $3k, but who finalizes early with someone who has such a dubious reputation??
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I had done a previous purchase with him that came through fine.. he was a good communicator and it came from UK to Canada in 4 days. As a newb, I was definitely stupid about this purchase. I realize this definitely could have been avoided. But I wasn't aware of the forum reviews at the time, I just went through the reviews of his products on SR.
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YA! As a new member I was forced to finalize early and now I am screwed... buyers beware of business with larghetto!!!
I understand new buyers have to finalize early, I've experienced that myself. What I don't understand is why you spent $3,000 without doing test purchases? Maybe you had done test purchases, I just assumed not since you said you were a new member. Can you tell us why you went for such a large amount so soon or whether or not you gradually built up to that amount?
It changes things a bit if a trusted vendor you've dealt with screws you on a large deal instead of you trying a new source out and going for bust with an initial $3,000 deal. You wouldn't do that IRL without trusting the dealer and having previous experience would you? Scams are even more likely here.
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Ya I had done a test purchase with him, and what's stupid about him ripping me off is that I told him I would continue to make these purchases monthly, so I don't understand why he would just rip me off instead of building a customer relationship
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Ya I had done a test purchase with him, and what's stupid about him ripping me off is that I told him I would continue to make these purchases monthly, so I don't understand why he would just rip me off instead of building a customer relationship
I also don't understand when sellers screw small orders up, they may lose many big orders in the future by loss of trust. I have a similar problem pending with a seller I won't name outside of the relevant thread pertaining to them. Small order may just = test order, so try to get a good passing mark if you'd like repeat business. A certain moneypak to BTC vendor passed the test purchase with flying colors and earned themselves a dedicated consumer as necessary in the future.
It sucks they were legit once, but they may still come through for you still it is a large order to fill. If they don't deliver be wary that selective scammers run amok fulfilling small orders and then scamming the big orders. With any luck you may still get your goods, keep up hope. If not, live and learn and spread the word in the relevant threads to help others.
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That Sucks :'(.
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Ya I had done a test purchase with him, and what's stupid about him ripping me off is that I told him I would continue to make these purchases monthly, so I don't understand why he would just rip me off instead of building a customer relationship
I also don't understand when sellers screw small orders up, they may lose many big orders in the future by loss of trust. I have a similar problem pending with a seller I won't name outside of the relevant thread pertaining to them. Small order may just = test order, so try to get a good passing mark if you'd like repeat business. A certain moneypak to BTC vendor passed the test purchase with flying colors and earned themselves a dedicated consumer as necessary in the future.
It sucks they were legit once, but they may still come through for you still it is a large order to fill. If they don't deliver be wary that selective scammers run amok fulfilling small orders and then scamming the big orders. With any luck you may still get your goods, keep up hope. If not, live and learn and spread the word in the relevant threads to help others.
Yes, I hope maybe he will start communicating with me again and resolve the problem - I am open to either option (refund or product), but in the meantime I just want to warn others to be careful so they don't end up in a similar position!
Also, if Larghetto reads this: I will gladly recant my statements if you can resolve this issue with me...until then others must know what you are capable of.
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i figured larghetto was a scam! i hadn't heard any feedback at all until now though.
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I'd like to say you're lucky it was only a scam with Larghetto but 3k is no joke. Shitty bro. If you didn't live in Canada, I'd send you some anti-depression MXE.
Sorry for the loss!!
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I spent over $3000 with larghetto on a few orders and he has admittedly told me that the package is not yet sent 3 weeks later and is now not even replying to my messages. This entire transaction has seemed sketchy - he told me the price of the product went up and I had to send him more money, then delayed it almost another week saying his supplier was on holiday - both of these I understand are not faults of his but I was patient. Then it took another week for the supplier to send it out and he received a tracking number. The package was supposed to be here by now so I asked him to check the tracking for me and that's when he told me it actually wasn't sent out to me because EMS doesn't deliver to Canada! I requested a refund which pretty much refused before he stopped replying and now won't even let me know what is going on!!!
really sorry to hear this, without prying to much, what was the deal about? benzos, opitaes? or? this information may help a lot.
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out of escrow too?
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Man..you guys have Larghetto all Wrong. All you have to do is swear on your Mother's Grave that Regardless of how bad things went...you will Give the Dude a Top Tier 5 Star Rating. I mean, what's so difficult about that?
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really sorry to hear this, without prying to much, what was the deal about? benzos, opitaes? or? this information may help a lot.
It was ketamine.. he said it would be no problem before my first paid sample order and it came quickly I was surprised!! Then delay after delay with the next order, put up price after I had already finalized and requested I send more money (which I delayed thankfully), and then he said it was sent.. when I asked for an update he said it actually was not yet on its way so I asked for a refund (3 week delay by this point) and he refused. I then changed offered to just receive the package if he;d prefer to just send it and he just ignored me...
Man..you guys have Larghetto all Wrong. All you have to do is swear on your Mother's Grave that Regardless of how bad things went...you will Give the Dude a Top Tier 5 Star Rating. I mean, what's so difficult about that?
I actually told him I would change his rating to 5 if he could resolve this with me - I don't even know if he is sending the package at this point or giving me a refund and just doesn't want to talk anymore (kind of childish for a seller, but I'm trying to keep hope that this may be what he is doing).
out of escrow too?
Unfortunately that was my 3rd purchase and since it was so large he said I had to do it out of escrow... I definitely learned my lesson there and hopefully can find other sellers that are willing to sell to someone will <10 purchases in escrow.
I will definitely update if I receive a response/refund/product and change my rating for this seller, but for the moment need to be warning others especially new buyers to be wary of this seller!! He does not seem to be as honest as he may come off in initial communications!!
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See... I fuckin' knew it! I called BS on that guy so many times that when people started saying that they had sctually recieved orders, I started a thead about how he was legit! I even deleted my posts in other topis regarding Larghetto. Keep in mind though, I only did this because I had said that if anyone real recieves anything from L and doesn't get busted, that I would take it all back.
*facepalm*
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Man , How you could give 3k to an unknown person?
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No word from Larghetto himself?
His score took a hit.
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Yes I realize I got a little overly excited and stupid for doing that. But I'm sure there are other sellers on here that care more about continuous profits and regular customers and their reputation more than to make a few grand off a scam.
No response yet, he just reads/deletes my messages.
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Ya i've had a bit of bad luck so far using this site (recently serious sam too! complete other issue tho....) so it kinda sucks. I'm trying to be optimistic about the site because I know this was partly because of my own stupidity and eagerness so I am definitely being more careful with future purchases but sellers like this definitely turn away new customers (if they know to check the forums before making purchases - unlike me.... :-[)
definitely sticking to escrow only purchases in the future! :)
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see this thread and make it big, we need to warn people against larghetto, i can see it coming!!
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=24322.0
Dig deeper and resurrect those old threads where everyone was convinced larghetto is LEO.
Did he refuse to send you a free sample by any chance?
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he reships some of his goods for so go direct
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he reships some of his goods for so go direct
I'm no expert, faaar from it, but just took a peek at that website. The only 2 ways to sign up, you have to either use Java or download an app. Both of which could be used to unmask me on tor, no?
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he reships some of his goods for so go direct
I'm no expert, faaar from it, but just took a peek at that website. The only 2 ways to sign up, you have to either use Java or download an app. Both of which could be used to unmask me on tor, no?
Correct. You will be unmasked and found out. Stay away.
Look from day 1 when this idiot came around. Total disrespect to the entire community and high LE suspicions attached to the name. (Community disrespect guaranteed. LE affiliation yet unproven but has been suspected for a long time. Look it up. ) Sad to still see this idiot still here. STAY AWAY FROM LARGHETTO !! 100% ASSCLOWN TWAT!
Anytime LARGHETTO's name come up attach DANGER STAY AWAY to it. After every post this idiot makes. Anywhere he goes. Do not give LARGHETTO a chance to harm or scam anyone any longer.
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I just don't understand why buyers do not use escrow or FE, especially with such large sums. Vendors should be happy to use it with big orders if they want repeat custom.
nedthehead you are correct java can cause leaks through tor which could be used to try and ID you.
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I do not think it is stupidity as much as naievity, many SR users only frequent the forums when they encounter a problem rather than before, so they only realise that FE is a sure fire route to getting scammed.
I just don't understand why someone making a $3k order would take the risk, unless they could afford the loss I suppose.
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I stayed in escrow luckily, but he won't let you order from him if you don't finalize, I just got away with not finalizing early till I got the tracking code but then when the tracking code was fishy to me I didn't finalize. Low and behold the package turned around mysteriously. USE ESCROW! ;)
Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
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Always use escrow, never finalise early.
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****I CHALLENGE STORMTROOPER TO STOP POSTING INSULTS, AND ATTEMPTS TO DEFAME ME ON THE BOARDS AND SIMPLY ANSWER THE BELOW STATEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT TO HIM MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY, AND REMAIN UNANSWERED POINTS, HERE, AND IN THE RESOLUTION.****
He is attempting to defame me by bumping old threads, that are half a year old, by posting in my threads that people should "never finalize" when he obviously referring to myself, and that he is in a terribly unjust situation with me, and that I am to blame for all of this.
******THUS I POLITELY ASK FOR A RETORT THE BELOW POINTS IN THE DEALING WITH HIM, IN WHICH HE HAS SCAMMED ME********
NB: *Excluding* the points put forward in adjudication, he has not answered the below points, nor other points that have been put forward to him, about a dozen times, in *3* threads *made by himself, that have backfired*. This will increase, and I will not bother to update the number, since he won't respond, and I will keep posting this. It is only fair that his attempts to defame me, should be seen as a malicious and spiteful attempt to exact some kind of revenge of the fact that he is scamming me, and it has gone to resolution, and it looks to be likely that he will lose (what should of been mine a long time ago anyway).
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Also, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE SELLER ON HERE THAT WOULD BE STUPID ENOUGH TO PUT A VALID RETURN ADDRESS ON THEIR PACKAGE, so thus the item is lost. Why should I resend or refund him(!) because he did not receive the package, when it has (a) clearly been sent (b) said he would finalize (c) and the package arrived? It is now becoming clear that it seems as though he might of sent to an abandoned house, or someone else's house, and ***EXPECTS ME TO PICK UP HIS BILL*** because ***HE LOST IT***!!!
I will show the below part of the resolution discussion. He has given *no* answer to *any* of the points raised here. It is also easily shown that he agreed to finalize via the message logs, and also the item location was never lied to him about, in either listing, or message. These things (both) can be seen that he is lying about very very very easily, so I don't know why he continues to misrepresent them. I can show the message logs again (they are inside the resolution), but I think it's not really proper.
*****I CHALLENGE HIM TO RESPOND WITHOUT DODGING QUESTION, NOR INSULTING ME, NOR CHANGING THE SUBJECT (again for the 3 or 4th time)*****
1. I would like to ask you to look below at the post in which I describe the basic stones in which one should analyse this case, and any case.
2. I would like to point you to the clear, obvious, and easily viewed fact that he agreed to finalize, and did not, despite my *repeated* attempts to ask him to do so. Also, the fact that he lied about the fact he was homeless in a vain attempt to try to make me not do so, he is lying again and again. The logs below clearly show this was so, and cannot be edited, nor spun, nor twisted, and should be tantamount to already proving that he is not only lying, but that he should of given me my payment anyway. If that is not enough by itself, then I really don't know what is, however, to continue to put forward my case I will continue.
3. The fact he has lied, continually, without hesitation about the idea that I lied about the location of the origin country that the item was from. This can easily be seen to be false, as with the tools you have, the logs, messages and so forth. The fact that he has lied, should severely damage his case, and that he is so ready to do so.
4. The clear and concise fact is, regarding the package, that it should not of been RTS'd (Returned To Sender) so quickly, it was only in the USA for a matter of DAYS, not even a week! Why this is so, I have no idea, however one can easily put forward the fact that one cannot recall a package from outside the country of destination. A fact he will have trouble to disprove, that and the fact it was sent back so quickly.
5. The concrete fact, that by looking at the tracking log of the item (EBXXXXXXXXX) you will see, very easily, and without problem, that the item arrived to the destination country, AND the state that he is in!!! How I am supposed to recall an item within the time that it arrives from his local post office to his address is infallibly obvious to be impossible! The truth is that it was obviously sent, and arrived to his local area, at the very least! Most likely to him. I might also add, that no one in their right mind puts a valid return address, that would be foolish, however that seemingly is not in dispute.
6. His notion that "nothing can be proven" is also a complete lie, the facts above are plain, obvious, and clear to see and show the actual nature of this situation.
*7.* MY ACE IN THE HOLE: I cannot do this, because I'm outside the US, and cannot look this up (nor change it as I said already). However, I'm sure you can phone up USPS with the above tracking ID and ***SEE WHO CHANGED IT***. That should be enough for sure.
What can be proved is as follows:
A) He was asked, and completely agreed to finalize, he was asked for SEVERAL days after, and did not do so.
B) The packge was sent, and arrived to his local state and PO.
C) He lied about the origin country, and my statements.
We could compare feedback scores, and so forth, and see that I'm CLEARLY the winner in that catagory, but I'm not going to state we should, the above is more than enough.
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I am so malicious and am trying my hardest to spite you Larghetto ;) You caught me I am a scammer thats why I am diong business with people still today on SR. I just got handed 2 grand by a friend to pick up some MDMA from Pfandlheir and you know whats awesome? He requests no early finalization! What a great vendor! and he is gonna get his money too I bet cuz he seems to know how to get product to people and not just have feedbacks filled of F/E lol your logic makes no sense as to why I would scam and the fact the package has arrived to sender means I could not have had the package lol!
Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
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see this thread and make it big, we need to warn people against larghetto, i can see it coming!!
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=24322.0
Dig deeper and resurrect those old threads where everyone was convinced larghetto is LEO.
Did he refuse to send you a free sample by any chance?
If thats the case, then he bought couple grams of heroin..... obvioulsy I made him FE cause there was not a snow balls chance in hell that I would send anything internationally without FE.... esp since the tracking post was 16 btc!
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OPI: Don't tell me that you are believing any of this stuff for even a second??? The man's post above you is admitting that he is doing all this to spite me, and he has not answered in any way the mountain of proof of his scamming of me!
This whole display is absolutely disgusting.
I AM IN THE WRONG, FOR BEING ***SCAMMED BY STORMTROOPER*** NOT LIKING IT, AND THEN GOING TO ADJUDICATION (NO LESS BEGGING THAT THE CASE BE REVIEWED, AND WAITING FOR OVER A WEEK), AND THEN HE DEFAMES AND ATTACKS ME ON THE BOARD, I ATTEMPT TO POLITELY ASK HIM TO ANSWER THE POINTS THAT HE HAS STILL NOT ANSWERED EITHER HERE, OR IN ADJUDICATION, AND YET ***I AM THE ONE THAT IS A SCAMMER*** I AM THE ONE ***THAT IS LE***
NOT ONLY THAT, HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO GO OUTSIDE OF ADJUDICATION, HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO DO ALL THIS. HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE FUCKING DECENCY TO WAIT FOR THE FUCKING OUTCOME WHICH HE IS SURE TO LOSE!
I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 8 MONTHS, SERVED ABOUT 200 CUSTOMERS, I HAVE OVER 250 ORDERS.
THIS MAN HAS 20 ORDERS, HE HAS BEEN HERE FOR 2 MONTHS, HE HAS SCAMMED ME, AND WILL NOT ANSWER HIS BURDEN OF PROOF AGAINST IT.
IF YOU REALLY ARE ON *HIS BOAT* IN ALL THIS, SUPPORTING HIM, IN HIS CLAIMS, DESPITE ALL THE ABOVE, YOU ARE OF SOME KIND OF TWISTED MENTALITY.
I HAVE CONTACTED SEVERAL ADMINS, AND I HOPE THAT THIS SMUT WILL BE REMOVED, AND THE PEOPLE WHO TRIED TO FURTHER IT DEALT WITH FOR THEIR LACK OF BEING A HUMAN WITH ANY MORALS, MIND, OR SENSE OF JUSTICE.
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****I CHALLENGE STORMTROOPER TO STOP POSTING INSULTS, AND ATTEMPTS TO DEFAME ME ON THE BOARDS AND SIMPLY ANSWER THE BELOW STATEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT TO HIM MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY, AND REMAIN UNANSWERED POINTS, HERE, AND IN THE RESOLUTION.****
He is attempting to defame me by bumping old threads, that are half a year old, by posting in my threads that people should "never finalize" when he obviously referring to myself, and that he is in a terribly unjust situation with me, and that I am to blame for all of this.
******THUS I POLITELY ASK FOR A RETORT THE BELOW POINTS IN THE DEALING WITH HIM, IN WHICH HE HAS SCAMMED ME********
NB: *Excluding* the points put forward in adjudication, he has not answered the below points, nor other points that have been put forward to him, about a dozen times, in *3* threads *made by himself, that have backfired*. This will increase, and I will not bother to update the number, since he won't respond, and I will keep posting this. It is only fair that his attempts to defame me, should be seen as a malicious and spiteful attempt to exact some kind of revenge of the fact that he is scamming me, and it has gone to resolution, and it looks to be likely that he will lose (what should of been mine a long time ago anyway).
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Also, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE SELLER ON HERE THAT WOULD BE STUPID ENOUGH TO PUT A VALID RETURN ADDRESS ON THEIR PACKAGE, so thus the item is lost. Why should I resend or refund him(!) because he did not receive the package, when it has (a) clearly been sent (b) said he would finalize (c) and the package arrived? It is now becoming clear that it seems as though he might of sent to an abandoned house, or someone else's house, and ***EXPECTS ME TO PICK UP HIS BILL*** because ***HE LOST IT***!!!
I will show the below part of the resolution discussion. He has given *no* answer to *any* of the points raised here. It is also easily shown that he agreed to finalize via the message logs, and also the item location was never lied to him about, in either listing, or message. These things (both) can be seen that he is lying about very very very easily, so I don't know why he continues to misrepresent them. I can show the message logs again (they are inside the resolution), but I think it's not really proper.
*****I CHALLENGE HIM TO RESPOND WITHOUT DODGING QUESTION, NOR INSULTING ME, NOR CHANGING THE SUBJECT (again for the 3 or 4th time)*****
1. I would like to ask you to look below at the post in which I describe the basic stones in which one should analyse this case, and any case.
2. I would like to point you to the clear, obvious, and easily viewed fact that he agreed to finalize, and did not, despite my *repeated* attempts to ask him to do so. Also, the fact that he lied about the fact he was homeless in a vain attempt to try to make me not do so, he is lying again and again. The logs below clearly show this was so, and cannot be edited, nor spun, nor twisted, and should be tantamount to already proving that he is not only lying, but that he should of given me my payment anyway. If that is not enough by itself, then I really don't know what is, however, to continue to put forward my case I will continue.
3. The fact he has lied, continually, without hesitation about the idea that I lied about the location of the origin country that the item was from. This can easily be seen to be false, as with the tools you have, the logs, messages and so forth. The fact that he has lied, should severely damage his case, and that he is so ready to do so.
4. The clear and concise fact is, regarding the package, that it should not of been RTS'd (Returned To Sender) so quickly, it was only in the USA for a matter of DAYS, not even a week! Why this is so, I have no idea, however one can easily put forward the fact that one cannot recall a package from outside the country of destination. A fact he will have trouble to disprove, that and the fact it was sent back so quickly.
5. The concrete fact, that by looking at the tracking log of the item (EBXXXXXXXXX) you will see, very easily, and without problem, that the item arrived to the destination country, AND the state that he is in!!! How I am supposed to recall an item within the time that it arrives from his local post office to his address is infallibly obvious to be impossible! The truth is that it was obviously sent, and arrived to his local area, at the very least! Most likely to him. I might also add, that no one in their right mind puts a valid return address, that would be foolish, however that seemingly is not in dispute.
6. His notion that "nothing can be proven" is also a complete lie, the facts above are plain, obvious, and clear to see and show the actual nature of this situation.
*7.* MY ACE IN THE HOLE: I cannot do this, because I'm outside the US, and cannot look this up (nor change it as I said already). However, I'm sure you can phone up USPS with the above tracking ID and ***SEE WHO CHANGED IT***. That should be enough for sure.
What can be proved is as follows:
A) He was asked, and completely agreed to finalize, he was asked for SEVERAL days after, and did not do so.
B) The packge was sent, and arrived to his local state and PO.
C) He lied about the origin country, and my statements.
We could compare feedback scores, and so forth, and see that I'm CLEARLY the winner in that catagory, but I'm not going to state we should, the above is more than enough.
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Opi
I dont think there talking about you, I think that post was referred to largheto, I didn't read it though. Also for Largheto, you come on here talking shit to a dude with a random post and make no mention of the guy you ripped for 3K? I mean what the fuck? If I were you my main concern wouldn't be me getting scammed It would be acknowledging the fact that some one is saying that you robbed 3 grand from them?? Why do you have nothing to say about it?
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@DIPSHIT: YOU DIDN'T READ ANY OF THIS, AND YET YOU THINK I'M ACTUALLY TO BLAME FOR ANY OF THIS??? READ SOME OF IT AND THEN COMMENT!!!
This whole display is absolutely disgusting.
I AM IN THE WRONG, FOR BEING ***SCAMMED BY STORMTROOPER*** NOT LIKING IT, AND THEN GOING TO ADJUDICATION (NO LESS BEGGING THAT THE CASE BE REVIEWED, AND WAITING FOR OVER A WEEK), AND THEN HE DEFAMES AND ATTACKS ME ON THE BOARD, I ATTEMPT TO POLITELY ASK HIM TO ANSWER THE POINTS THAT HE HAS STILL NOT ANSWERED EITHER HERE, OR IN ADJUDICATION, AND YET ***I AM THE ONE THAT IS A SCAMMER*** I AM THE ONE ***THAT IS LE***
NOT ONLY THAT, HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO GO OUTSIDE OF ADJUDICATION, HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO DO ALL THIS. HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE FUCKING DECENCY TO WAIT FOR THE FUCKING OUTCOME WHICH HE IS SURE TO LOSE!
I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 8 MONTHS, SERVED ABOUT 200 CUSTOMERS, I HAVE OVER 250 ORDERS.
THIS MAN HAS 20 ORDERS, HE HAS BEEN HERE FOR 2 MONTHS, HE HAS SCAMMED ME, AND WILL NOT ANSWER HIS BURDEN OF PROOF AGAINST IT.
IF YOU REALLY ARE ON *HIS BOAT* IN ALL THIS, SUPPORTING HIM, IN HIS CLAIMS, DESPITE ALL THE ABOVE, YOU ARE OF SOME KIND OF TWISTED MENTALITY.
I HAVE CONTACTED SEVERAL ADMINS, AND I HOPE THAT THIS SMUT WILL BE REMOVED, AND THE PEOPLE WHO TRIED TO FURTHER IT DEALT WITH FOR THEIR LACK OF BEING A HUMAN WITH ANY MORALS, MIND, OR SENSE OF JUSTICE.
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****I CHALLENGE STORMTROOPER TO STOP POSTING INSULTS, AND ATTEMPTS TO DEFAME ME ON THE BOARDS AND SIMPLY ANSWER THE BELOW STATEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT TO HIM MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY, AND REMAIN UNANSWERED POINTS, HERE, AND IN THE RESOLUTION.****
He is attempting to defame me by bumping old threads, that are half a year old, by posting in my threads that people should "never finalize" when he obviously referring to myself, and that he is in a terribly unjust situation with me, and that I am to blame for all of this.
******THUS I POLITELY ASK FOR A RETORT THE BELOW POINTS IN THE DEALING WITH HIM, IN WHICH HE HAS SCAMMED ME********
NB: *Excluding* the points put forward in adjudication, he has not answered the below points, nor other points that have been put forward to him, about a dozen times, in *3* threads *made by himself, that have backfired*. This will increase, and I will not bother to update the number, since he won't respond, and I will keep posting this. It is only fair that his attempts to defame me, should be seen as a malicious and spiteful attempt to exact some kind of revenge of the fact that he is scamming me, and it has gone to resolution, and it looks to be likely that he will lose (what should of been mine a long time ago anyway).
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Also, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE SELLER ON HERE THAT WOULD BE STUPID ENOUGH TO PUT A VALID RETURN ADDRESS ON THEIR PACKAGE, so thus the item is lost. Why should I resend or refund him(!) because he did not receive the package, when it has (a) clearly been sent (b) said he would finalize (c) and the package arrived? It is now becoming clear that it seems as though he might of sent to an abandoned house, or someone else's house, and ***EXPECTS ME TO PICK UP HIS BILL*** because ***HE LOST IT***!!!
I will show the below part of the resolution discussion. He has given *no* answer to *any* of the points raised here. It is also easily shown that he agreed to finalize via the message logs, and also the item location was never lied to him about, in either listing, or message. These things (both) can be seen that he is lying about very very very easily, so I don't know why he continues to misrepresent them. I can show the message logs again (they are inside the resolution), but I think it's not really proper.
*****I CHALLENGE HIM TO RESPOND WITHOUT DODGING QUESTION, NOR INSULTING ME, NOR CHANGING THE SUBJECT (again for the 3 or 4th time)*****
1. I would like to ask you to look below at the post in which I describe the basic stones in which one should analyse this case, and any case.
2. I would like to point you to the clear, obvious, and easily viewed fact that he agreed to finalize, and did not, despite my *repeated* attempts to ask him to do so. Also, the fact that he lied about the fact he was homeless in a vain attempt to try to make me not do so, he is lying again and again. The logs below clearly show this was so, and cannot be edited, nor spun, nor twisted, and should be tantamount to already proving that he is not only lying, but that he should of given me my payment anyway. If that is not enough by itself, then I really don't know what is, however, to continue to put forward my case I will continue.
3. The fact he has lied, continually, without hesitation about the idea that I lied about the location of the origin country that the item was from. This can easily be seen to be false, as with the tools you have, the logs, messages and so forth. The fact that he has lied, should severely damage his case, and that he is so ready to do so.
4. The clear and concise fact is, regarding the package, that it should not of been RTS'd (Returned To Sender) so quickly, it was only in the USA for a matter of DAYS, not even a week! Why this is so, I have no idea, however one can easily put forward the fact that one cannot recall a package from outside the country of destination. A fact he will have trouble to disprove, that and the fact it was sent back so quickly.
5. The concrete fact, that by looking at the tracking log of the item (EBXXXXXXXXX) you will see, very easily, and without problem, that the item arrived to the destination country, AND the state that he is in!!! How I am supposed to recall an item within the time that it arrives from his local post office to his address is infallibly obvious to be impossible! The truth is that it was obviously sent, and arrived to his local area, at the very least! Most likely to him. I might also add, that no one in their right mind puts a valid return address, that would be foolish, however that seemingly is not in dispute.
6. His notion that "nothing can be proven" is also a complete lie, the facts above are plain, obvious, and clear to see and show the actual nature of this situation.
*7.* MY ACE IN THE HOLE: I cannot do this, because I'm outside the US, and cannot look this up (nor change it as I said already). However, I'm sure you can phone up USPS with the above tracking ID and ***SEE WHO CHANGED IT***. That should be enough for sure.
What can be proved is as follows:
A) He was asked, and completely agreed to finalize, he was asked for SEVERAL days after, and did not do so.
B) The packge was sent, and arrived to his local state and PO.
C) He lied about the origin country, and my statements.
We could compare feedback scores, and so forth, and see that I'm CLEARLY the winner in that catagory, but I'm not going to state we should, the above is more than enough.
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This is getting out of hand fast.... And @Larghetto people are reading this stuff so no need to re-post. Chill out with all the caps as well. It's not helping your side to behave like this.
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This is absolutely disgraceful.
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Thats what I am saying! Just chill out and let the admins handle this Larghetto! Fuck dude...
Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
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@ dipshit lol to funny man. Yes I read your thesis on stormtrooper we get it after 3 re posts. However what you have not answered is the man who STARTED THIS THREAD CLAIMING YOU BURNT HIM FOR T H R E E T H O U S A N D D O L L A R S !!!
Do you understand now?? Nobody gives a shit about stormtrooper all I want to know is what about the dude that claims you made him FE for 3 g's and have not responded to his messages and told him it shipped and then told him it didn't?? Also I have no idea if you scam or not since I never ordered from you and after reading several negative threads about you I def would not. But please enlighten us on the 3 grand situation. Also If what you say is true and several people are just lying and making shit up about you (which is doubtful) Well then that is very sad and hopefully karma will be a bitch to them.
Good Day.
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This is 2 people you have tried to rip off over 3 grand for hahaha
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You still don't understand do you?
The person at the start of this thread, was refunded his money, a LONG time ago.
The person who bumped this thread (that being Stormtrooper), has scammed ME for $3500, or is very much trying to. I have detailed the entire evidence that I have against him, time and time again. He has not responded to any of it, and is spitefully attacking me by slandering me, bumping old thread, creating new accounts, telling people not to trust me, not to finalize and so on.
I don't want to carry this on. The stuff that is being done is absolutely awful. It is an absolute disgrace that this is being allowed to carry on with impunity, and it also coordinated also by multiple people.
Please, just let it die. I can't be bothered anymore, why should I pander to his ugliness?
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OK Largheto that is all I was talking about not the stormtrooper situation. I could care less about that not to sound rude or anything. I just seen the first post and then seen you come in the thread and go straight to storm trooper. and not acknowledge the op. That's all I was saying and If you refunded him then your good to go. He hasn't come here and disputed it. However I'm pretty sure it is silk road policy not to ask a buyer to Finalize Early. If you are getting robbed well that sucks. But you can look at buyer stats. I have 10 purchases about a grand, no auto finalize and no refunds. That would tell you that I'm not burning people and you could deal with me in a relatively safe way. So if someone has fucked up stats just dont deal with them. Plain and simple. I hate all the scamming and SR has it set up that if you play by the rules then it greatly minimizes it. Use a dcn to show proof of delivery if its a big deal. But I am here to buy drugs, stay in escrow to not get ripped off and absolutely never ever claim to not receive a package when I actually did. I have to look my self in the mirror everyday and I want to like what I see and not be ashamed that I am a piece of shit. If more people had those morals we wouldn't even need escrow. But that's not the world we live in today. I hope everything works out for the people who are being honest in these deals. Including you largheto if what you say is true.
Good Day
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i forsee a 50%-50% resolution in your guys future
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THIS......THREAD......WAS......MADE......9.....MONTHS.....AGO.....
STORMTROOPER......BUMPED......IT......SO......HE......COULD......TRY......TO......RUIN......MY......BUSINESS!!!
ARE YOU BLIND???
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He actually still has not sent the dcn in the resolution center like he has been asked. I have about 22 purchases with about 10 grand spent so thats why its pretty straight forward I am not a scammer. And Larghetto if I was to bump this thread to ruin your business I would do it on my account, I have a lot bigger rep on my account, why would I create a new one just to bump a thread? And who cares if this was 9 months ago Larghetto?! (even though it was 7) you still fucked this guy over too!
Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
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Yea my bad, Had no clue how old this thread was. I though it was new cause I just clicked new post since last time I have been on. Also If you refunded the OP cash then that's fucked up that he didn't delete this post. Anyway happy trails silk roadians.
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Thats what I am saying! Just chill out and let the admins handle this Larghetto! Fuck dude...
Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
QFT
It is being handled, directly by me.
Everyone needs to drop the topic and let me review everything that was posted in my absents.
:)
nomad